Series of Unfortunate Events, A Easter Egg - Hidden Hint to Next Book

The hidden hint at the back of the Grim Grotto is extremely difficult to find. If you look on the right near the city, there is something that looks like a leaf. It is not a leaf. It was the self-sustaining hot air mobile home the Quagmires are in.

here check this out..... Carrie E. Abelabudite" is an anagram for "Beatrice Baudelaire." (8.158) Thanks to Julia, the Goldfish *Book 3: page 126 I [Lemony Snicket] have seen a woman I loved picked up by an enormous eagle and flown to its high mountain nest. *Book 4: Dedication My love flew like a butterfly/Until death swooped down like a bat... *Book 6: page 26 "Ah!" Jerome said. "You're [Violet] adventurous! . . . Your mother was adventurous, too. . . . We hiked up Mount Fraught with some friends--gosh, it must have been twenty years ago. Mount Fraught was known for having dangerous animals on it, but your mother wasn't afraid. But then, swooping out of the sky--" *All of these clues lead up to the prediction that Beatrice is/was Mrs. Baudelaire. see wat else you can find out

I am sure that Beatrice is the Baudelaire orphans' mother, in other words, Mrs. Baudelaire. I am 100%sure that she is. Because on Book 3, Lemony Snicket writes: I have seen a woman I loved picked up by an enormous eagle and flown to its high mountain nest. On the 4th book, Lemony Snicket writes: My love flew like a butterfly, until death swooped down like a bat... On the 6th book, Jereme says, "Your mother was adventurous, too. . . . We hiked up Mount Fraught with some friends--gosh, it must have been twenty years ago. Mount Fraught was known for having dangerous animals on it, but your mother wasn't afraid. But then, swooping out of the sky--" So if you stick them together, It'll say; Until death dropped down like a bat, swooping out of the sky, the woman I loved was picked up by an enormous eagle and flown to its high mountain nest. Which makes sense that it is Beatrice Baudelaire.

For the record, I believe that Beatrice is Mrs. Baudelaire. In one of the books, I forget which one exactly, Snicket, while talking about the horrible things that he has seen, says that he has seen a woman he loved "flown to a high mountain nest by a giant eagle" or something like that. Also, in book the sixth, Jerome says that the Baudelaire's mother once climbed Mount Fraught, and he says that "All of the sudden, a giant bird swooped down and..." before he is interrupted by Esme. If the woman that Snicket says he loved above is Beatrice, then Beatrice is the Baudelaire's mother!

For what it's worth, I am 99.9% sure that Beatrice is Mrs. Baudelaire because in Mr. Snicket's autobiography he lets slip that Beatrice could whistle Mozart's 14th symphony and Violet tells Aunt Josephine that her mother could do that. It may just be coincidence but in Lemony Snicket's world -- I doubt it! And, there are all the other clues as well!

Ever notice that Sunny's babbling sometimes mean something? Once, she says 'denada' to mean, 'no problem,' which, if I'm not mistaken, means just that in Italian. In another, she says 'Orlando' to describle Olaf's hermaphradite henchperson. Orlando is a book about a man who changes from a man to a woman.

I thought that Beatrice might be the Baudelaire's mother, but if she is, why is it that when Esme pushes the Baudelaire's down the elevator shaft (Ersatz Elevator) and she says something like "I want to steal from you like Beatrice stole from me!" there is no recognition by the orphans of the name? I think it's more likely that Beatrice actually married Count Olaf (which explains how Beatrice "stole" from Esme), how Beatrice married someone other than Lemony, and why Lemony tries to warn Beatrice (I don't remember where) "Count Olaf is really..." Thoughts?

Wait everyone, i just figured this out! Lemony snicket could be Mr. Baudelaire because he lost his dear Beatrice who could be Mrs. Baudelaire(She would have died in the fire, which explains why the paper the baudelaires found said that some believe 1 to be alive*Mr. Baudelaire*) and Mr. Baudelaire could have changed his name to lemony snicket while he was in hiding after the VFD headquarters was destroyed.

Lemony Snicket puts several names into the series with th initials J.S. just to make you think hard... Jacques Snicket, Jerome Squalor, Justice Strauss.

If Tammy 29 is so thick to think that "lemony snicket" exists and if you believe that he's talking through daniel handler you really need to look @ the facts everyone knows Lemony snicket is daniel handler all who agree should vote yes

I don't know if this will help, but I think that lemony snicket is the baudelaires uncle because in the 10th book,lemony writes a letter to his sister (page 100), and he talks about a salad that she made (page 101). On page 112, it says that Sunny remembers back at the mansion, that her mom was making a salad and it says that she used the exact same ingredients as lemony was talking about in the letter to his sister which i think is Mrs. Baudelaire. So that means that beatrice isn't his sister because you can't marry a family member of yours. Also, in the unauthorized biography, there is a secret message on pages 84-85. Look after ringing and hello is underlined. read the rest of the underlined words in order and it will say, "Hello. If you are alive, do not come here. The Count will burn you and Beatrice. Stay away." I then figured out there was another message on pages 87-88. You have to start at the 2nd paragraph and every 11 words, there is another word to the message (same as to the one to Lemony on pages 84-85). It says, " Enclosed is our Cafe sugar. Here some we to certificate apartment an after hope". The last sentence is weird, but it probably means something.

I think Beatrice is the kids parents. I know you know that from everyone else , but He said that his love got tooken away.I know you love your reatives that's why he said love.In one of the books he wrote a letter to his sister and said about a salad. Sunny remembered her mother eating that same salad. So that's why I think that. Please just click yes and that will be all the thank you I need. God bless.

for those who have been to the nameless novel website i think i might have found some things that might be in the next book based on the answers to some questions: 1. "The great fire of london" could mean that there will be another big fire in the next book 2. "sorrowful songs" can mean that vice principal nero (he plays the violin badly) might make an appearance in the next book 3. "grimm brothers" may be refering to duncan and quigley quagmire and they might get reunited..this might actually happen seeing that we can see the balloon in the last picture in the grim grotto 4. "the sister took them" might be refering to kit snicket taking the baudelaires at the end of the grim grotto

I just wanted to let everyone who thinks that the 12th book will be called something along the lines of horrible hotel or whatever that you are wrong. 'Lemony Snicket' would never repeat letters, he has already used H in Hostile Hospital. Therefore the 12th book will have to start with... D,F,I,J,K,L,N,O,P,Q,T,U,X,Y, or Z. I also agree with whoever said they thought the s.o.u.e. books would end at 13, because every chapter in every book has 13 chapters and it is an 'unlucky number'. I personally would like to add that I love the s.o.u.e. books, but they are a little to complex for me, like some of the stuff you guys are saying about how to find out more clues and that. I hope that the last book will bare all, clearly. And lastly I would like to say that it is stupid and very immature for people to be using this site for dissing people and that, it is supposed to help people.

Hi! I'm new to this, but I found something interesting I thought I might share. I don't know if any of you have looked up the word "denouement," (the last safe place is the Hotel Denoument) but that word means (according to my Webster's electronic pocket dictionary) "the final outcome of the dramatic complications in a literary work." We should read between the lines if we want to figure out this series.

I think I just found out something close to a clue! In the unauthorised biogrophy, page 205, where there are pictures, at the bottom, if I'm not mistaken...... that's peru! Machubichu to be exact! My point is.... didn't uncle monty want to go to peru and take the baundelaires with him? Wierd..........

Carrie E. Abelabudite is a patient.Carrie E. Abelabudite is also an anagram for Beatrice Baudelaire from the 8th book and this is so cool because Lemony Snicket mentioned that Beatrice died in the afternoon.That means Beatrice did die in a fire but not in the morning because the fire in Heimlich Hospital happened in the afternoon which killed the patients in the hospital.But,Carrie E. Abelabudite is also a patient that died in a fire that means she really did die in a fire in the afternoon...But does that mean the Baudelaire's Mother is Beatrice... With all due respect, The Editor

In the 6th Book Esme says "Ever since Beatrice died I wanted to get my hands on them"which the "them" is stated to the Bauldelaires orphans.That's why I think Beatrice is Mrs.Bauldelaire.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The 12th Book is called The Penultimate Peril.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Penultimate means second last and dangerous is peril so from what im seeing the title really means the second last book.

This comment is about people thinking that Mr. Baudelaire is actually Lemony Snicket. Though I do believe that Mrs. Baudelaire is Beatrice, I don't think that Lemony is Mr. Baudeliare because, first fo all he has two siblings with the last name Snicket and he is seen (though not his actual face) in the picture with the baudelaire parents and his brother jacques Snicket, so there is no way the Mr. baudelaire and Lemony Snicket are the same person in the books. Vote Yes if you agree with me.

In the twelfth book,The Penultimate Peril, Lemony Snicket says: For Beatrice- no one could exstinguish my love, or your house, which is talking about the baudelaire's mansion, means Beatrice is their mother.

It probably doesn't help, but lots of allusions to authors. Baudelaire - Charles Baudelaire, poet Poe - Edgar Allen Poe, writer Montgomery - Lucy Maud Montgomery, writer Prufrock - T.S. Eliot (Love song of J. Alfred Prufrock), poet Dr. Georgina Orwell - George Orwell, writer Nero - Nero, Roman Emperor? (he also thought he was a good musician) I've only read up to book 10, but it's interesting how these things keep coming up..

If anyone has read the 11th book, and you're wondering who J.S. is, I'm almost positive that it's Jerome Squalor. The same for the letter they found that was adressed to J.S. (who they thought was Jaques Snicket, but it's not to him, because he is dead).

OMGosh, Daniel Handler is to Lemony Snicket. He has been on the radio talking about himself. I think he chose the name Lemony Snicket because it sounds like a sad ryhme to Jiminy Cricket. And just because Beatrice might be Mrs.Baudelaire, doesn't mean that Lemony Snicket is their dad. Haven't you ever liked someone that you couldn't have? It could be the same for Lemony Snicket.

In the auto biography there are two letters and a playscript. It dosen't look like much, but some of the words have been underlined, when put them together this is what I got: Letter#ONE: 'Hello. If you are alive, do not come here. The count will burn you, and Beatrice, stay away!'. Letter#TWO: 'Attending your masked ball is dangerous' but I'll be there. Lemony'. The playscript: 'Attention! Hidden in the snowman is a suvivor of the fire. Meet us in the town where this film takes place. Bring the three children. Your new assistanat is not one of us, beware!'. I've also noticed that the first letters title is 'The Vineyard of Fragrant Drapes' instead of grapes, and the initials of Vineyard, Fragrant and Drapes is V.F.D.

www.thenamelessnovel.com - July 12 - Reread the Grim Grotto to see how you can solve the code with poetry! The Sugar Bowl is hidden in the Laundry Room of Hotel Denuemont. Book 12th Coming October 18th! Book 13th Coming July 2006 (?)! Daniel Handler is Lemony Snicket's true identity. Daniel Handler and his friends used the name "Lemony Snicket" to order pizza and other kinds of daily needs.

Hey! For those of you who didn't get what I posted "Lemony Snicket"must be an Edgar Allan Poe fan for him to name Mr. Poe's son's Edgar and Allan. Maybe that's why all of the books are so gloomy. Edgar Allan Poe was a gloomy writer.

The 12th book will not be the horrible hotel. Snicket/Handler already used the letter H for the Hostile Hospital. I believe that it will somehow take place at hotel denoument/ the last safe place, and maybe for once the baudelaires will have a happy life (according to what i said before...) the baudelaire parents could still be alive. They could have the sugar bowl, or were hiding the sugar bowl, and never died in the fire because they exited through a secret passage, just like Quigley Quagmire. The unfortunate things could be happening to them not only because Count Olaf knows they have money and fortune. He might know that they have the sugar bowl. (These are all only my guesses, just like most of the rest of you. They could be wrong)

hey guys, i agree with wallamanage about the thing how you shouldn't use the movie as a reference..there are heaps of things that they change..and from what i remember i don't even think there is anything in the books about a spyglass..and for another thing Mr Poe doesn't even cough once in the movie

If you are truly a sieres of unfortunate events fan go to: unfortunateevents.com You can play games, it gives you unfortunate events news, and there's a forum, to discuss the books! If you do sign up for the forum it might take about even 3 months to actually get to type something, because they need to check if everythings in order. Even I'm still waiting to get valid! If you do sign up my user name is : meli5550

Lemony snicket real name is Dan Handler and the 12th book is out 18th october no name or such at the moment pics & name expected July (around harry potter relaese) I was also dumb enough to believe that the 12th book was the omnious omnibus IT IS NOT its the first 3 books as somone already mentioned . I dunno what you are fighting about with the herring but its pointless. I think beatrice IS their mother it makes sense the most appealing evidence being the statment by Esme about baetrice as she throws them down the elevator and i think the last book is the vicious victory or the frightening finish something like that.

In book the tenth..i think thats the one anyway lemony talks about making salad the way Beatrice told him to and how delicious it tasted and later on mrs baulelaire makes it the same way....

Hey people. I found out when the 13th book is coming out. It's October 13, 2006. I think its going to be something about an island because at the back of the 12th book there's a napkin with a ship sailing on it. And I read something in the newspaper that talks about the 13th book and says something about an island in it.

Some things: 1) ness for once I agree with you. The site you wrote is interesting. However you spelt it wrong. It is www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/authors/Daniel_Handler.htm (you forgot the c in fantastic) 2) I very much doubt that book the twelveth will be have the words Guesthouse or Hotel in it. Think about it. Snicket/Handler has never repeated the same letter in the illiteration of his book titles. He has already used the letter H (Hostile hospital) and G (Grim grotto) 3) In book ten don't a man and a woman get taken to Mount Fraught by eagle? From what I'm hearing it must be Beatrice. If it is her she would seem to be in league with Olaf. 4) Has anyone else heard Lemony play the accordion? Pretty good stuff...

For all of you who have been finding clues on thenamelessnovel.com, there is a simple website with all of the answers. The adress is- http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nameless_Novel There are the answers and some topics that I never would of thought of without reading that page. It is updated every day for the new answers! Be careful-it's a spoiler site, but there is nothing posted that we don't already know.

Lemony wouldn't be the Baudelaire's father if Beatrice was their mother because Lemony said that Beatrice his love married someone else. Does anyone know wat the 13th book is called?

How could Beatrice be their parents if she was carried away about 20 years ago? Their mother was still at their house around the time the fire started and it hasnt been 20 years since then.

Mr. Poe's childeren are not named Edgar and Allen. they are named Edgar and Albert. I think that the idea of Beatrice being Mrs. Baudelaire is a good theory. it might be possible, but right now, I think it's a matter of opinion.

I think that there are two different V.F.D.'s one is the organization,the other V.F.D. is Count Olaf's plan,which I think is Victorious Finance District because finance has something to do with money,and Count Olaf think's it's Victorious[I olso think that because I found it in the autobiography].

I think that the number twelve will take place at the Hotel Denouement, because Snicket uses Hotel Denouement stationary. In all the other books, the letter to the editor at the end is from somewhere the Baudelairs go in the next book. For example, in book seven he uses a telegram from the Last Chance Store. The Baudelairs go there in the beginning of the eighth book. Also, in the picture at the end of number 11, it shows a hat that says Hotel D, which most likely says Hotel Denouement.

The 13th book is called "The End" and it is coming out Friday the 13th in October, 2006. Beware, all of you supersticous people out there! THE END IS COMING FRIDAY THE 13TH!! lol

tammy92 is wrong about the Daniel Handler thing.. He is, indeed, Lemony Snicket.. Have you never heard of a pseudonym? A pen name? Daniel Handler and Lemony Snicket are one and the same. Think about it

hey guys..i don't know if you already knew this but i just found it interesting that the word quagmire means a mixed up or toubled situation, or a hopeless tangle..it can also be a swamp type thing or a situation where there's no clear exit strategy..that exactly the type of situation the baudelaires and the quagmire triplets are in!

I have my copy of the Grim Grotto. For the hidden hint, there is a hat that says "Hotel D". That stands for "Hotel Denouement" which is the "last safe place". The twelfth book is going to be about that!

I think that Esme loved Mr. Beudalaire before Count Olaf, and that would explain why she said that she snached him from me.

I think beatrice is the baudelaire's mum!

Christopher?!, Please stop writing like you know more about A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS then all of us put together!(your anoying me)I'm new here,so I'll tell you guys what I know:I'm sure Betrice has something to do with something,but I'm not sure she's Mrs.Baudelaire.She might be an aunt in the Baudelaire family.

Ok, for all those that are confused, let me clear it up. Some people are saying that Mr. Poe's boys are named Edgar and Allan. Mr. Poe DOES have a boy named Edgar, but he does NOT have a boy named Allan, the boy's name is Albert. For those that don't believe here's the proof right out of the book: p.13,'And the two Poe children-Edgar and Albert-were loud and obnoxious boys with whom the Baudelaires had to share a tiny room that smelled of some sort of ghastly flower.' p.16,'"Well," Mrs. Poe said, "you three had better start packing. Edgar, Albert, please help me clear the table."'

I think that Dewey Denoment(12th book) is kit Snicket's husband.If that is true than Kit snickt is lemony snicket brother because in the 10th or 11th book he wrote a letter to his sister.

j man how ever you spell it, plz don't diss people you don't even know.And do you even know one thing about series of unfortunate events. Why do you always talk about irrelevent stuff. This site is about giving comments not swearing and dissing people. Thank you every one for your helpful comments. I really appreciate it.

kit snicket couldn't be the baudelaire's because in the grim grotto kit snicket picks up the bauldelaire's in the taxi at the end...and i think they would recognise their own mother

i am new here and i have read a lot of your comments and i agree on: lemony snicket is daniel handler lemony snicket is the screen name of daniel handler and lemony snicket might be a fiction,himself,as well as beatrice and the rest of the unfortunate events characters the quagmires are inside the statue of the fish the quagmires were transfered inside the fish while the baudelaires are heating the iron rod or something. then the fish was sold to the guard who at the same time was count olaf henchman but i have a question, what is the surname of count olaf?

I have the 9th book, and the tenth book is called "The Slippery Slope". I looked in the back of the book at the last picture and I saw a million "skiiers guides". Also, In the beginning of most books, in the opening picture, thy ave a reference to the last book that was released. Just some facts!

I found out the title to the next book by looking in the riped pages in the back. The title is going to be Omninous Omnibus, it means Threatening Bus.

hey..for those who are still confused about the lemony snicket/daniel handler thing got to www.wikipedia.com and type in "lemony snicket" and you'll find all this info about his real name which IS Daniel Handler...and there's all this other info about the books aswell

I am not sure but I think Lemony Snicket stole the sugar bowl from Esme because in the Autobiography he mentions it.

i think....the last book's title will be in relation of "ending" but in other words like "finish" or something because the first book is about the beginning

jerome squalor said that they hiked up mount fraught 20 years ago. beatrice died twenty years ago so maybe the baudalaires mother is really there step mother because beatrice couldnt be she died 20 years ago and the baudalaires knew there "mother"

Well I was readying all the comments and some of you seem to not know some basic things from the book. Like one kid was asking what VFD means, and another said that it meant Volunteer Fire Department. While it does mean that it is also used in every aspect of this book. This club/organization incorporated it into every tad bit of their existence. Ponder this, in the Slippery Slope they use the words Vertical Flame Diversion, VFD. And in another they use Volunteer Feline Detectives, VFD. Did you also notice that every book's title has the same letters that start the main words? Bad Beginning, Vile Village, Grime Grotto. Also at the End of Grime Grotto it says that the orphans have broken their cycle of unfortunate events for the first time. Is this a sign of a better life for the children? Next books title…Heinous Hotel? Also in the last picture in Grime Grotto you can see the blimp could this be the Quagmires mobile home and will the Bodilares meet up with them?

The Quagmire triplets were hidden in the elevator and then the red herring in the 6th book, they were in both. And I think everyone is right when they say Beatrice is the Baudelaires mother, i have proof but i have to look it up.. it's something besides the eagle thing, and even if it is true that doesn't mean Lemony Snicket is stupid! He's fabulous and in! as fabulous and in as aqueous martinis!

gabby rm 18, you dont know everything you think you do. lemony snicket is daniel handler's pen name. a lot of other people said that besides you.

Well, I think that the hint at the end of The Grim Grotto was the Hotel Denoument hat on the beach near Mr. Poe.

baloo I wouldn't trust anything you saw in the film. It is only BASED on the books and does not really follow them well. s.o.u.e. fan, the reason some beleive that Beatrix is the Baudelaires mother is that there are several hints to this in the books. For example: One of the anagrams in book 8 is Beatrix Baudelaire. The thing is I'm not sure of this theory. As we all know L.S. knows very well what a red herring is and how to use one so I wouldn't be suprised if something completely different to what people expect is the outcome of these books. Also people should be talking about the egg not what they think will happen in the books. P.S. I'm a right hypocrit.

"De nada" may mean that in Italian, i'm not sure. But I am use that in Spanish it means "think nothing of it" or "no problem". So little Sunny is muticultural, how nice.

"De nada" in Spanish means "your welcome." One could also say "por nada," it means the same thing, it's just a different dialect of Spanish. Also, did anyone notice that in book the 10th Sunny said "Rosebud" when talking about the sled. "Rosebud" was the name of the sled in CITIZEN KANE.

Look up "Lemony snicket daniel handler" on google images and you will see that Lemony Snicket is Handler

Beatrice is not nessesairily the Baudelaire mother. Jerome does indeed state that their mother did climb Mount fraught that fatefull day but the two of them were part of a group of friends which presumably included Mr. Baudelaire and Lemony Snicket as well. It is my guess that Beatrice is not their mother since the evedence given is circumstantial at best and also someone pointed out that none of the siblings recognized the name as their mother's. This event did not nessesairily take place a long time ago from the siblings point of view either. When Lemony writes about it is says it takes place 20 years ago but that is as of the time of his writing it and not as of the time he is writing about (the siblings story timeline) since he is always pointing out that the siblings story is fairly old as well. another title posibility: the deletarious denoument?

Beatrice is DEFINITELY NOT the Baud's Mom. This is because the Baudelaire parents got killed in the fire in the MORNING, and somewhere, (I forgot where)Lemony mentions that Beatrice was killed in the afternoon. Well, she could only be the Baud's Mom if she was in another country... :P Ignore that, it was more conjecture than theory. And, yes the Quagmires WERE hidden in a herring statue, and that's that! If you don't believe me, reread the books.

Lemony Snicket can't be Count Olaf's brother. In the Grim Grotto, the captain says there were three of them. Kit Snicket took them in the taxi at the end, Jacques Snicket died. That only leaves Lemony Snicket. And he isn't Count Olaf because he said in the Carnivorous Carnival that he wasn't there so he didn't know what happened to Madame Lulu, but Olaf WAS there. How did you work out Ominous Omnibus? And by the way, Christopher, stop acting like you know everything. You don't, whatever you like to believe, your belief is in vain.

hey i'm new here. umm...i've read all the books, some more than once, and i don't know where i put my copy of the grim grotto. but i have something that is about the 6th book. the quagmire's WERE hidden in a red herring. it says so in the book. "we used to red herrings to fool you." esme said. the children could see, in the back of the truck, the big red herring that had been lot #48 in the in auction." so there you go. the quagmire's WERE hidden in a red herring in the 6th book. i quoted from the book, go check.

yay book the 13th is coming out on Friday October 13th!!

There are lots of people who are wondering about Mr. and Mrs. Baudelaire. Mrs. Baudelaire IS Beatrice. [In the last book Kit's request was to name the baby after the Baudelaire's mother, and the baby's name is Beatrice.] Mr. Baudelaire IS NOT Lemony Snicket. [For one, he says that she was in love with someone else; i.e. MR. BAUDELAIRE!!] The title of the next book for those who are wondering about book 12 is THE PENULTIMATE PERIL, book 13 is THE END and book 14 [at the end of book THE END] is called CHAPTER FOURTEEN. I hope I helped. [I know this for sure because I have read the entire series =D]

For the fourth book and the "hidden hint", it isn't very hard to spot. One of the VERY obvious things is the school bus you can see and this one is pretty cool. If you pay attention to the fence you can see that it is not a wooden fence but it is made of pencils. Well I hope that helped.

Ok. Heres another one of my guesses for the 12th book title. Dreadful Denoument. Doesn't that make sense? the clue is hotel denoument, the last safe place, and dreadful denoument wouldn't be a bad title.

the 12 soue book is called the penultimate peril i bought it on monday.Its not called what ever every body said its the penultimate peril.

at the end picture of #12 someone else is on the boat. volunteer or enemy? and does count olaf die?

I think the last book takes place on the island count olaf said he was going to keep the children on til he could steaL their fortunes cuz a couple ppl said there was a boat at the end of the 12th book P.S. I dont think its that great to call someone stupid just cuz they asked for help from someone for help:(

another reason i think that it takes place on the island is cause on the cover of the 13th book there is a beach

Lemony Snicket can't be their father because in the 5th book it says "The Baudelairs did not necessarily want to be exteremely lucky, like someone who finds a treasure map or someone who wins a lifetime supply of ice cream in a contest, or like the man-and not, alas, me- who was lucky enough to marry my beloved Beatrice and live with her in happiness over the course of her short life."

I don't know if this is just a coincidence or what, but in the back of book 5 "the Austere Academy" there is a fish on the bumper of the car that the two Quagmire triplets are being pushed into. In the front of book 6 "the Ersatz Elevator" there is a similar fish on the street sign that the Baudelaire children are standing by.

Just to tell you, book twelve isn't the Omibus Omnibus or whatever. An Omnibus is an Anthology so I suppose that will be similar to the unauthorized biography.

I think the fish on the bumper of the car the Quagmires are being shoved into is a reference to Cafe Salmonella.

You know how there's 13 books? Lemony Snicket aka Daniel Handler is writing that many because 13 is an unlucky number, you know, friday the 13th. P.S.- What's all this about Beatrice being Mrs. Baudelaire? It says in one of the books something like: I said to Beatrice "Count Olaf Is-" and the author leaves it as if Beatrice was killed.

Did anyone ever think that lemony snicket could be the baudelaire orphan's father???? he could be if he was in hiding and he was watching over them but couldn't help them and everyone would think he was dead. Also lemony snicket could change his name in the book, too, meaning the since daniel handler changed his name to lemony snicket when he wrote the book, how do we know that his name in the book wasn't ___ Baudelaire until he changed it to lemony snicket while writing about them. He could have done that because how would someone else be able to even write the series of unfortunate events without a close view of what was happening and lemony snicket could be Mr. Baudelaire in the book because he could have that close view if he was in hiding after VFD headquarters was burned down(I believe when the Baudelaire Mansion was burned down they escaped and hid at VFD headquarters.)because they wouldn't be able to stay there any longer.

Im new here but im a huge fan of s.o.u.e ,I also hope that most of yall are younger than 18 cause if not thats weird. I think that its possible that kit could be there mother, but wouldnt they recognise her?

Beatrice has got to be Mrs.Beaudelaire because in the Unauthorised Autobiography Snicket says;"To amuse myselfduring this nineteen hour wait, I have written down several possible titles for a book about my life, I do not think I will... etc. anyway, one of the possible titles is LEMONY SNICKET: The story of a man, a Woman, and another man. The man is him, the woman is beatrice or Mrs. Beaudelaire, and the other man is Mr. Beaudelaire.

This is just for LucyCherry38. I'm pretty sure that ness wouldn't have put up the wrong site on purpose and besides, they just changed the web address because I had been to the site that ness had put up before, they've just changed it to http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/h/daniel-handler/ Also about the "13 Shocking Secrets You'll Wish You Never Knew About Lemony Snicket" that had been released a long time ago as a pdf document and "He is finished" just means that Lemony Snicket has just finished writing book the thirteenth named "The End".

Alka asked if anyone has any ideas about Book the Thirteenth and on the Harper Collins website they've posted the letter from Lemony Snicket that will appear on the back cover. Here's the website to check it out: http://www.harpercollinschildrens.com/HarperChildrens/Kids/BookDetail.aspx?isbn13=9780064410168 It mentions some pretty interesting stuff...and it also confirms that the last book will be named simple "The End".

Tammy92, you are wrong. Lemony Snicket IS Daniel Handler, and Daniel has written other books. Lemony Snicket is an alias for Daniel Handler, because Daniel used to write in to newspapers and stuff using an alias so people could not find him. It's all in Wikipedia, search it up.

Mr.Poe's children's name isn't Edgar and Allan Poe. It's Edgar and ALBERT Poe.

OMG.Who knows what lemony snicket looks like. I do now. EVERYONE go to www.fantastisfiction.co.uk/authors/Daniel_Handler.htm. PLZ EVERYONE GO TO THIS SITE. I did not expect him to look like this. If you did go to this site what did you think?

it is wierd because in all the books except the grim grotto, the note to lemony snicket's editor, tells us what the next book will be.

just because Beatrice MIGHT be the Baudelaires mom it doesn't mean Lemony Snicket is their father.Why would he want to tell the whole world of what "his children" went through if he were their father which is VERY unlikly.

as the plot thickens,is there a possibility that the baudelaires might survive? if you believe that they will have a happy ending,click yes...thanks

Oh my god! The End is really good.I only read the beginning but it's really good!The Beatrice Letters is a really cool book, but man stop arguing in the comment post thing and Cristopher, the Quagmires are really hidden in a fish in book 6!lol

for snicketlbook who asked for the answers to the quiz on august 18th on the nameless novel website they are: 1. memento mori 2. gravlax 3. how water is made 4. it 5. sebald hope that helps

that in the book the end it says that something about kit and lemony snicket are brother and sister trust me i am 100% complete sure

Hey, you guys "de nada" in spanish actually means "of nothing". Just clearing that up. Oh and by the way has anyone gone to thenamelessnovel.com and tried to do the quiz thing on August 18th, if you have can you post something about it I just cant get it.

Umm... I have a question as lemony007 said they think Lemony Snikets there uncle why can't they go live with him? And how do he know all these storys about them is he spying on them or something? THe Baudelaires have weird uncles

hii read all of the last book and it is on a island where kit snicket has her baby and tells the baudalaires to name it after their parents and they name her beatriceso beatrice is the baudalaires mom it is so obvios and yet is does not say wat vfd means.

its impossible for beatrice to be the baudelaire's mother! assuming that beatrice did die from the eagle, (you are never told if this happens, it is only implied)there is NO WAY beatrice is the baudelaires mother, who died from the FIRE (anyone forget? thats why they are orphans) probably much later. And it doesnt even sound like the mother got killed from this eagle- just that she was brave when it swooped down. Also, the baudelaire parents are seen as good people, and lemony lost beatrice tragically, if a man stole her from him, it would be someone on the wrong side of the schism- and i think there is somwhere it implies that count olaf was the one who stole her from him before she died

hey, just wanted to say that has anyone else noticed the relation between the names lemony snicket and jiminy cricket? ty

I have a book that is called, "13 Shocking Secrets You'll Wish You Never Knew About Lemony Snicket." and there are 12 clues throughout the book and you have to figure out the 13th clue. I have figured it out. It says that "He is finished." I don't know what it means, it could mean a lot of things.

Hello! I'm new to this but what I know is that the last book is called The End and it's coming out October Friday the 13th! Dear Editor The end is near and it comes out October 13 2006 so don't go to the nearest store to buy this book. With all due respest, Lemony Snicket P.S: Since all that is such a fuzz, here are the names of all the books, 1.The Bad Beginning 2.The Reptile Room 3.The Wide Window 4.The Miserable Mill 5.The Austere Academy 6.The Erstaz Elevator 7.The Vile Village 8.The Hostial Hospital 9.The Carnivrous Carnaval 10.The Slippery Slope 11.The Grim Grotto 12.The Penultimate Peril 13.The End P.s:Did you realise that all the book titles start with The?

Ok so what I have heard so far is very interesting. Everyone is saying Beatrice is Violet,Klaus,and Sunnys mother. I think that Lemony snicket is kind of making people think and that to distract people so they don't know he is supposed to be the villian Count Olaf. She has to have died but not in the fire. She must have been a paitent at the hosipital and died then like everyone says. Note: she is propley the mother and She died in the afternoon and the fire was is the morning. The fire at the hosipital in the 8th book Was in the after noon. To help people that might not have the books in the dedication pages of the 9th,10th,11th,12th,and 13th book said ( 9th book dedication ) For Beatrice- Our love broke my heart and stopped yours. ( 10th book dedication ) For Beatrice- Whenwe met, you were pretty, and I was lonely. Now, I am pretty lonely. ( 11th book dedication ) For Beatrice- Dead woman tell no tales. Sad men write them down. ( 12th book dedication ) For Beatrice- No one could extingush my love, or your house. Finally, ( 13th book dedication Note: at the very end it says Beatrice ) For Beatrice- I cherished, you perished. The world's nightmarish. Sincerely, Helpful

Lemony Snicket is not the Baudelaire's father or their mother's lover, secret or otherwise. He was/is a lost sibling. The clue for this lie in chapter 2 of the Penultimate Peril, when Lemony was spelling everything as though it were in a mirror and if you were to hold the book up to a mirror, it would say as follows "...whatever secrets they discover after so much reflection, such as a previously unknown sibling who was already watching them at that very moment." Also in "13 Shocking Secrets you'll wish you never knew about Lemony Snicket" it is clearly stated that "Lemony Snicket is one of the three siblings" I find that this hardly makes any sense at all. Before reading the 13 shocking secrets, I had thought that Lemony was the actual 1st born Baudelaire child who had been kidnapped by V.F.D. for training and such which is hinted in shocking secret #7 and maybe "The Unauthorized Autobiography" which I have'nt read in so long that I can't be sure. I also thought that Beatrice, in addition to the baby and the Baudelaire mother, was named after the same person who the Baudelaire mother was named after in the tradition of naming a child after someone who had died. This is my theory, but after reading that he is one of the THREE siblings, I am utterly confused and losing hope of ever figuring it out. Please help me figure this out!

I think that the 13th book in A Series of Unfortunate Events is going to be about a boat because if you look at the page that says " To My Kind Editor, The end is near. With all due respect, Lemony Snicket" Well if you look at the bottom right hand corner of the picture, it shows a picture of a boat so I am assuming that the 13th book will be about a boat and in the end of the 12th book the Bauldelaires end up capturing Count Olaf using a boat. I also think that on that same page gives you a hint that there will only be 13 books because it says "The end is near."

Hey guys OMG i just realized i looked @ the 11th book and the picture at the back has a hotel concierge's hat on the beach so the next book is to do with the hotel denounment probably it will be called something like the horrid hotel or something ";

i don't think the next book will start with H as some people have said, because on the lemony snicket website that shows all the covers of the books and on the nameless novel website it shows that the cover isn't actually the same kind of orange as in the hostile hospital, so the name of the next book probably isn't the horrible hotel or anything

The 11th book is called THE GRIM GROTTO. The Baudelaire orphans will travel around in a submarine and might ecounter some caves with different types of funguses (mushrooms). They also meet someone that did not expect...

Hey guys.I thought I was a big fan of lemony snicket/daniel handler/count olaf book's then I found this site. Your guys comments have made me look outside the square. I recommend all fans of these books to read the unauthorized autobiography. There are hidden clues, hidden messages and other stuff to question. After reading this book I did think that lemony snicket was count olaf. And thank you christopher for your opinions. Don't listen to what the other guys are saying.

for those guys who don't do the quizzes on the nameless novel website, the clue for the 23rd of september was a link to http://www.kidzworld.com/site/book_shelf.htm on the right hand side there was an ad for "terminal taxi co." which then said "as featured in The Theoretical Truth by Lemony Snicket" when you clicked on the ad it was a link to the nameless novel website.. i don't know if it's true but this maybe the name of the next book...but if it is it doesn't really sound like all the other titles in the series and doesn't really say much about what it's going to be about

I looked in book 12 ,and it turns out that jerome AND justice strouss(is that spelt righ?)are in it.and someone called dewey gets killed by a harpoon,and SOMEONE fires SOMEONE!

I didnt read all the comments but i notice that people were talking about a possible hotair balloon in the picture in the back of book 11. No one mentioned the hat in the sand that has the words "Hotel D". this means the 12th book must have something to do with the hotel denouement

OK, first of all Beatrice and the salad prediction is a little out there. I mean isn't it possible that more than one person made that same salad. Second of all, Jerome said that the accident with the bird on the mountain happened twenty or so years ago. How in the world could the kid’s parents be Beatrice when she supposedly was taken to a birds nest and killed before the orphans were even born! And the end of Jerome’s sentences ("Your mother was adventurous, too. . . . We hiked up Mount Fraught with some friends--gosh, it must have been twenty years ago. Mount Fraught was known for having dangerous animals on it, but your mother wasn't afraid. But then, swooping out of the sky--" ) It could very well be that the end of the sentence is that “Beatrice your mother’s sister was taken by a bird.” It could really be anything. My prediction is that Beatrice is Lemony’s sister who was also in the VFD organization. Beatrice might even be Lemony’s husband .Either way I am sure that Beatrice was somehow involved in the VFD organization. I am also 100% sure that Beatrice knew the orphans mother in some way. And whoever wants to know the 13th book comes out Oct.13 and another new book is called “The Beatrice Letters” comes out September 5th! This should clear up this discussion.

Look what I found! "Still pursued by the evil Count Olaf, the Baudelaire orphans attempt to reach a very important VFD meeting, but first they must travel in a rattletrap submarine to the Gorgonian Grotto, a dangerous underwater cave, in search of the sugar bowl." and also, Beatrice Beaudilaire could be...the Beaudilaire's mother!

DearBLAYDEN,your first roumer about Cristefer[sorry if I spelled your name wrong]isn't true.Yes at first they were hidden in the elevator,but then they were put in the statue.

I read in a magazine interview with daniel handler that he was nervous at a meeting when,I forget, an editor or something asked his name and he just said Lemony Snicket. I'm ALMOST positive. Almost.

hey you guys are good! i never would have thought of those clues like beatrice being the baudelairs mother! OMG! and i never ever new about the pictures in the back of the book thing! i totally cant wait until the 13th book comes out! does anyone know what it is called i am very interested? i am yet to read the autobiography but i am very looking forward to it! thanbks for your clues lol mary moo

I think we've all got the point that Beatrice is the Baudelaires Mother. Won't it be a huge shame when the 13th book comes out, and all of us will just be like, Ohhhhhhhhhhhh. That's the answer. And then seldom will we ever have anything to talk about.

In the first Lemony Snicket book when the Bauldire children first meet Mr.Poe, his son's names are Edgar and Allan Poe. I don't know if this is an Easter Egg or not but I thought that it was really cool.

Just to tell you, bLADEN, the Quagmires ARE hidden in the Herring's statue.

I just had a thought. what if lemony and beatrice were the baudelaire's real parents, but had their aunt and uncle take care of them since birth? I don't know, just thinking out loud.

The omnious omnibus is the first three books in one; put together after the release of the movie and released as a new book. Information from user Tape on thequietworld.com

they are carried away in the fish

Mrs. Baudelaire dies sometime in the morning, while in (I Believe) book 8, it says "married someone else, then died that afternoon." That means that Beatrice is probably not Mrs. Baudelaire.

It's Obvious Beatrice Is The Mother Of The Baudelaires Because; If Beatrice Wasn't Returned To Safety Then Jeromy Squalor Wouldn't Have Brought It Up And If You Look Closely In The Twelfth Book You Can See Seagulls Which Means That The Thirteenth Book Is Set On An Island And It Is Called The End And I Noticed That Lemony Snicket Was At The Hostile Hospital At The Same Time As The Baudelaires So Was There Mother So The End Of The Books Where It Says I Am Now Viewing What Happened To The Baudelaires Is Wrong HE WAS THERE!!!!!!!

Did anyone ever think that everything was made up by the very deep author,lemony snicket. that nothing was true. think of all the possabilities. you guys go so deep into thinking that everything is real and everything must have a reason. Beatrice is probably lemony snicket's wife that tradgically died and sows names into his fictional stories. get a grip and pay attention. dont be now it alls G.V.A 7/28/05 11 years old

For all of you who don't know De Nada means You're welcome in SPANISH not Italian.i don't think that Sunny would be talking in spanish.

Ok, two things. First of all, I think that Lemony's sister(Kit) is the baudelaire's mother. I was studying the movie(before I read about Lemony having a sister named Kit) and when he gets up from his desk after he finishes writing the book, there's a picture on it's side, of two boys and I girl(I think they are Lemony, Jaques, and Kit/the baudelaire's mother). Right now I can't remember why I think he's the kids' uncle, but I'll post it when I remember. Also, I noticed three other things in the movie. First, when Klaus looks at his father's spyglass in the drawer after the house has burnt down, there is a gold plate that says V.F.D. on it that is sitting next to it. Secondly, the store where Count Olaf leave's the car outside of to try and run over the children with a train, is called the Last Chance general store(from book the seventh). Lastly, as Lemony is supposed to do at the end of every book, he leaves the printed pages in a package held up near the huge clock, so the publisher can get them. I can't remember the other thing right now, so I'll post it later

in the 12th book at the front its says 'for beatrice-no one could extinguish my love or your house' yet another clue that beatrice is the childrens mother...but does that make lemony snicket there dad???? mabe hats is code name so no-one finds his identity and kit snicket is not really kit snicket but kit something!!!! OMG!!!

I think that Count Olaf, Lemony Sniket and Beatrice are sibling {that why lemony love Beatrice as a sister}and their perants died and Beatrice and Lemony got more money and gold then Olaf so now he is thring to get the BAUDELAIRE fourtune and ohter money by stealing it from his sibling. Alsou what if Lemony was the Quaqmires father. And I think that the secret pasege in the 6th book that lead from the elevator to the Bauelaire mansion is how the fire got started. Count Olaf and Estme travel trough there to set mantion on fire as a revenge.Then that would explain that he would be the first relative that would be their gardia because he is the closest one .V.F.D. migh stand for Various Fire Disasters. That were spous to kill lemony and Beatrice but only killed Beatrice and now lemony fells gilty. I dont get the eye thing thougt. Well I cant waot until the 13th book comes out even thougth Iam only on the 8th . With all due respect, #1 fan

i think that Beatrice is the orphans mother and Mr Baudalaire took Beatrice from Lemony

I know what the 13th book is called!!!!!!!! It is called "The End"

I'm not so sure about this, but I think Count Olaf might be Lemony's brother because in one book [I'm not so sure which] one but it said that lemony had a tatoo of a eye on his ankle like Count Olaf.And in the seventh book [when JaQues Snickit shows up]they say that it's Count Olaf's brother.And JaQues's last name is the same as lemony's,so that might mean that they are brothers,and if JaQues and Olaf are brothers then that might mean that Olaf and Lemony are brothers.

Lemony Snicket is Daniel Handler! For anyone who does not know that Daniel Handler Changed his name to lemony snicket while writing the books.

tammy92, u r so wrong!!!!! daniel handler IS lemony snicket!!!!!! lemony snicket is his pseudonym! he just ACTS lik lemony snicket and himself are really 2 different ppl. frm the way ppl tlk on here, there are a LOT of adults on here who are arguing about a kids series. creepy.

hey guys.. i have found out the title of the 12th Book! Its "THE PENULTIMATE PERIL" penultimate means the second last..so ti's the second last peril!! i found it on this blog site of this girl who found book the twelfth a few days early soemwhere in the us and she's got a picture of the cover on the site that she took with her camera phone..if you don't believe me take a look at this site!!!! http://www.grrface.com/2005/10/for-beatrice-no-one-could-extinguish.html

The twelfth book 10 th chapter involves jerome squalor and justice strauss dieing and lemony snicket/daniel handler getting injured and will die from a enemous salamander bite. sunny also meets up with her snake. I found this on the internet and cannot wait for the book too come out and see if i was right.

lemony snicket's real name is daniel handler. lemony snicket is his Pen name that he uses when he writes books. Simple. no? he did not change his name just uses a pen name when writing. Du! Im right . i know it. He doesn't want to many people knowing his name but that changed when he made the movie. they had to put his name. that's where I dicovered his name.

In book one, at the end there is a picture of a snake curled around a lamp post. The next book is kind of about snakes. In Book two in the picture at the end there is a man wearing a Lachrymose Leaches top. In the next book Aunt Josephine is eaten by Lachrymose leaches. In Book three in the picture at the end there is kind of a set of eyes as an archway in the background. In the next book Klaus is hypnotised by count olaf or something. Been a while since I read it. In Book four in the picture at the back there is a school bus. The next book is the Austere Academy which is like a school.At the end of the Austere Academy there is a fish on the numberplate of the car and in the next book, The Ersatz Elevator, they go to the restaurant where they serve salmon. Then at the end there is a picture of a crow and in Book 7 there are heaps of crows around the village. At the end of that one there is a picture of them picking up paper and there is a piece of paper that says Last Chance on it. In Book eight the children pretty much start off in the Last Chance General Store. In the end of Book 8 the picture is of the children in the back of Count Olafs car and there is a poster of Madame Lulu which is the fortune teller at the carnival in the ninth book. I dont know the ninth book picture. The tenth book picture is of the Beaudelaires getting dragged away by water and in book eleven its all about water. I dont know the picture in book 11 and the picture in book 12 is either smoke or birds. P.S I think book thirteen is called The Flaming Finish

Christopher-please tell me why you believe beatrice might be their mother. I just got done with the 11th book. Your help would be great!!!

If Beatrice is the baudelaire's mother than Lemony would be their father and if Lemony is their dad then why dedacate his life to the baudelaire mystery if he already knows so much about them?So chance's are that she might not be their mother.

i love the books and know about lemony snicket and daniel handler. i don't feel like telling you's what i think, but you all really have to stop acting like little babies and fighting over the computer. and stop posting useless comments about books we've already read and figured stuff out about. and hopefully all the ppl posting on here are under the age of 18. cuz if not, then eww. *`~tressa~`* ©copyright ...<3

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hetz writes:

Why are you lot all streesy?

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Zachula writes:

DIid you ever consider the fact that Count Olaf could be Lemony Snicket? If Beatrice was the Baldulaire's mother(which someone mentioned earlier)than that means that Count Olaf was either married to Beatrice or liked her very much, but then lost her.(Seeing that the fact that Lemony Snicket and Count Olaf are the same person). If L.S./C.O. was married to Beatrice, than Count Olaf has the right to take the Bauldulaire foutune, it is his money. One point though, if Count Olaf was the orphand's father, then wouldn't the orphans recognize him? Or was Count Olaf in another one of his disguises? Thanks!

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Kyarameru writes:

I don't know, so don't shoot me down, but I think the 12th book might be "The Horrible(maybe Horrid?)Hotel.

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Skellington98 writes:

Hey guys I just had an Idea if beatrice is the orphans mum wouldn't Snicket be the father

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s-o-u-e_fan writes:

I think the 12th book might be called "The Lousy Lane" Since the letter "L" hasn't been used yet and don't they have to go there for something?? i don't really remember at the moment. i might be wrong tho since this is only a guess. But, i do have to agree that it could also have something to do with the hotel denoument. NOTE: it cannot be anything like Horrible Hotel since "H" has already been used for Hostile Hospital.

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Christopher writes:

Erm... Excuse me? But the person named "none" who posted a comment about a fish in the 5th book, that fish is supposed to be a herring, a red herring. This red herring is actually a refrence to the big statue of a Red Herring that the quagmire triplets were hidden in. This also reffers to the "hidden hint" to the next book. Also, for those of you who want to know, A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS, a movie, is coming out in December 17 starring Jim Carrey as Count Olaf!

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j-man writes:

Dear czolgoz,did it occur to you that Orlando isn't Italian,it is in Florida.

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j-man writes:

J-man is NOT christopher.I think that Mr.Poe is Lemony Snicket.Because he is at the same place the author is in the preview of book 5.(Where the triplets are hidden.)

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tammy92 writes:

YaZzA is wrong when he/she says that lemoney snicket is really Dan handeler. Dan Handeler is the person who lemoney snicket i"talks" to the public threw. Dan Handeler is a person who has written books of his own.

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